Meyer Joseph Engelser Engelsman

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Meyer Joseph Engelser Engelsman, birth ONG 1740, died 13 Nov 1825 Amsterdam, G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:

eyer Jozeph Engels, 91[?] yrs.old, widower of Judic Nathan Duijts.
Notifier: Abraham Meyer Engels, 45 yrs.old, son.
info courtesy of Dini Hansma)
Event: was naturalized 9 Jan 1812 Amsterdam assumption of name Engelser; then living at Uillenburg op 't Kokkehofje 4; with 4 sons, 4 daughters, 3 grandsons and 1granddaughter;
sons: Nathan, 30 yrs, Joseph, 28 yrs, married to Saartje David, living at Houttuinen, Naftali, 26 yrs, living abroad, Abraham, 24 yrs, married to Judith Samuel, living on Vlooijenburg, with 2 sons Naphtali, 6 yrs. & Meyer, 4 yrs.old;
daughters: Betje, 40 yrs, Mijntje, 34 yrs, Saartje, 22 yrs. and Rebecca, 21 yrs.old.
Married ONG 1770 to:
Judith Jettele Nathan Dijs, birth ONG 1745, died 13 Jun 1819 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: on 22 Sivan 1819 [15 Jun 1819] - Judic/Jettele Nathan Dijs, wife of Meyer Engelser.

G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
on 13 Jun 1819 - Judic Nathan Dijs, 74 yrs.old, spouse of Meyer Joseph Engelser.
Notifiers: Abraham Meyer Engelser, 39 yrs.old, at L.Houtstr, seller of clothes, son
and Salomon Jakop Roos, 23 yrs.old, seller of flowers, grandson.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma)

1) Betje Pes Ester Meyer Joseph Engelsman, birth 1770 Amsterdam, died 20 Aug 1832 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: on 25 Aw 1832 [23 Aug 1832] - Betje/Pes Meyer Engelsman, wife of Jacob Roos/Bloemenman.

G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
on 20 Aug 1832 - Betje Meyer Engelsman, 62 yrs.old, spouse of Jacob David Roos, 65 yrs.old.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma)

on list of dead due to choleric plage:
nr. 55, Betje Meyer Engelsch, spouse of Jacob David Voos[= Roos], 70 yrs.old, at Lange Houtstr. 30; died on 20 Aug 1832
Married 1790 Amsterdam, dtb 758/180; witn.groom: f.Jacob David [?]; witn.bride: f.Joseph Meyer[?]. to:
Jacob David Roos, birth 1768 Amsterdam, died 26 Dec 1838 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: on 28 Dec - Jacob David Roos.

G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
on 26 Dec 1837 - Jacob David Roos, 73 yrs.old, spouse of Saartje Meyer.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma), occupation: in business, on 18 Tammuz 5557 [1797] Jacob ben David Bloemensocher attains membership [Chezkat Hakehila] of the jewish community for himself and his spouse for the amount of fl. 100.-
(see: protocolls 1790-1808, p' 192), son of David Salomon Seligman Bloemenman v.Anspach and Debora Hartog
Event: was naturalized 20 Dec 1811 Amsterdam assumption of name Roos; then living at Jode Houttuinen 26, with 5 sons and 2 daughters;
sons: Abraham, 18 yrs, Salomon, 16 yrs, Isaac, 5 yrs, David, 1 yr. and Nathan, 15 days old;
daughters: Sara, 22 yrs, living at Uilenburg, and Saartje, 12 yrs.old.

2) Nathan Meyer Engelser Engelsman, birth 13 Feb 1774 Amsterdam, 'Circumcisions and Births in Amsterdam 1697-1811, by Jits v.Straten':
on 20 Feb 1774 - circumcision of Nathan ben Meyer Engelsman, the 4th child; at the child's home., died ONG 1814
Event: event 1798 Amsterdam Previous Tnaim Rishonim:
Tnaim rishonim in act 5558/27 on 29 Shevat 5558; groom: Nathan, accompanied by father Meyer ben Joseph; bride: Frumet bat Moshe z.l, accompanied by mother Knendele bat Eizik Witzenhausen, who wiil donate fl. 100,- to the dowry; she'll also feed th e couple on Shabbat & feast during 1 year after the marriage; she also promises to use her influence with the leaders of the jewish community in order to secure for her daughter the bride her own job as responsible person for the ritual baths , at the moment she herself can't function any more;
committed for groom: his father Meyer;
committed for bride: her br.-in-law Wolf ben Moshe m.h.l.
These tnaim were annulled on 6 Kislev 5559.
Poorlist 1809 Amsterdam: on the list under nr. 21.24: Nathan Meyer = Nathan ben Meyer Engelscher, 33 yrs.old, married, in fruit, with 1 son of 2.5 yrs.
Married END Dec 1803 Amsterdam, dtb 651/210; witn.groom: f.Meyer Engelen; witn.bride: f.Salomon Isaac.
Tnaim acharonim in act 5564/25 on 1st day of Rosh Chodesh Adar 5564;
groom: Nathan ben Meyer m.h.l;
bride: Trein, accompanied by father Zelig ben Eizik;
brothers groom: Joseph, Abraham, and not-attending Naftali;
mother bride: Fegle bat Pinchas.
Event (family) got engaged BEG Dec 1803 Amsterdam Tnaim rishonim in act 5564/10 on 5 Kislev 5564;
groom: Nathan, accompanied by father Meyer ben Joseph;
bride: Trein, accompanied by father Zelig ben Eizik Engelsman, who will donate fl. 100,- to the dowry; the fathers are also committed. to:
Trijntje Trein Salomon Zelig Klopper Engelsman, birth 1787 Amsterdam, died 11 Jun 1849 Monnickendam, Trijntje Engelsman, 62 yrs.old, born in Amsterdam, daughter of Salomon & Abigail, spouse of Philip Voorzanger.
(Genlias), buried 12 Jun 1849 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery : Trijntje/Rachel-Trein Salomon Engelsman, wife of Feibesh Voorzanger. 1st marriage 2nd marriage, daughter of Salomon Zelig Isaac Eizik Klopper Engelsman and Vogeltje Fegle Benjamin Pinchas v.Praag

3) Naftali Meyer Engelser Engelsman, birth 12 Aug 1780 Amsterdam, 'Circumcisions and Births in Amsterdam 1697-1811, by Jits v.Straten':
on 11 Aw 5540 - birth of Naftali ben Meyer Engelser
on 19 Aug 1780 - circumcision of Naftali ben Meyer Engelsman in the Uilenburger shul.

4) Mietje Mink Meyer Engelser Engelsman, birth 1781 Amsterdam, died 24 Dec 1847 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: Rebecca[?]/Mink Meyer Engelsman, widow of David Hijman/Chaim v.Kollem/Mikollem, died of 'waterzucht', lived in Weesp.
Married 1804 Amsterdam, dtb 651/273; witn.bride: f.Meyer Joseph.
Tnaim acharonim in act 5565/14 on 15 Kislev 5565;
groom: David ben Chaim Kolm;
bride: Mink, accompanied by father naaleh Meyer ben Joseph;
brothers groom: Aron, Leib & Leizer, sons of Chaim Kolm z.l;
mother bride: Jettele bat Nathan. to:
David Hijman Chaim v.Collem, birth 1759 Amsterdam, died 3 Nov 1846 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: David Hijman/Chaim v.Kolm, 88 yrs.old, deterioration., son of Hijman Chaim Jacob v.Collen and Judith Eliaser Levie
Event: was naturalized 10 Jan 1812 Amsterdam assumption of name v.Collem; then living at Batavierstr. 94, with 1son, Hijman, 5 yrs.old, and 1 daughter, Judik, 3 yrs.old.
Event: event 5 MEI 1815 Amsterdam death of child: G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
stillborn daughter of David Hijman v.Collem & Mietje Meyer Engelzer.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma)

5) Joseph Meyer Engelser Engelsman, birth 1783 Amsterdam, 'Circumcisions and Births in Amsterdam 1697-1811, by Jits v.Straten':
on 24 Mar 1776 [!] - circumcision of Joseph ben Meyer Engelsman in the great synagogue., died 24 MEI 1850 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: Joseph Meyer Engelsman, 83[?] yrs.old, a married man, deterioration, lived at Amstelstr., occupation: in fruits
Poorlist 1809 Amsterdam: on the list under nr. 29.11: Joseph Meyer = Joseph ben Meyer Engelscher, 32 yrs.old, married, in fruits, with 1 son of 10, and 1daughter of 8 yrs.
Event: was naturalized 9 Jan 1812 Amsterdam assumption of name Engelser; then living at Houttuinen, 28 yrs.old, married to Saartje David, with 1 son Nathan, 10 yrs.old, and 1daughter Hanna, 8 yrs.old.
Married 1798 Amsterdam, dtb 644/49; witn.groom: f.Meyer Joseph; witn.bride: f.David Meyer [?].
[it is possible, that this couple had an premature child: in 1797 - circumcision of 'Selig Bloemenman of Serre, by whom had Joseph']
Tnaim acharonim on 11 Cheshvan 5559 in act 5559/2;
groom: Joseph ben Meyer m.h.l;
bride: Tserle, accompanied by father David b"r Selig z.l;
mother bride: Debora bat Hirsch z.l;
brother groom: Nathan ben Meyer;
bride's father signs: David ben Ruben Isaac. to:
Sara Tserla David Roos, birth 1778 Amsterdam, daughter of David Salomon Seligman Bloemenman v.Anspach and Debora Hartog

6) Abraham Meyer Engelser Engelsman, birth 24 Jan 1784 Amsterdam, 'Circumcisions and Births in Amsterdam 1697-1811, by Jits v.Straten':
on 31 Jan 1784 - circumcision of Abraham ben Meyer Engelsman at the child's home., died 2 Nov 1858 Amsterdam, Muiderberg cemetery: Abraham Meyer Engelsman.
Event: was naturalized 9 Jan 1812 Amsterdam assumption of name Engelser; then 24 yrs.old, married to Judith Samuel, living on Vlooijenburg, with 2 sons Naphtali, 6 yrs. & Meyer, 4 yrs.old.
Event: event between 21 Feb 1808 and 1839 Amsterdam Zeeburg cemetery:
on 21 Feb 1808 - child
on 11 Feb 1811 - stillborn " of Abraham Meyer Engelscher.

G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
on 20 Aug 1817 - Isaac Abraham Engelsman, 1 yr.old, son of Abraham Meyer Engelsman, 39 yrs.old & Clara Samuel Fert.
on 15 Oct 1821 - Samuel Abraham Engelsman, 4 months old, son of Abraham Meyer Engelsman, 40 yrs.old & Clara Samuel Vert.
on 26 Aug 1833 - Marcus Abraham Engelsman, 12 yrs.old, son of Abraham Engelsman & Klaartje Samuel Furth.
on 2 Jan 1839 - stillborn daughter of Abraham Meyer Engelsman & Leentje Salomon Baszanger.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma)

burial of child:
in 1839 - stillborn child of Abraham Meyer Engelsman
Married ONG 1805 to:
Klara Samuel Furth, birth ONG 1784 Amsterdam, died 26 Aug 1833 Amsterdam, G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
Klaartje Samuel Furth, 49 yrs.old, spouse of Abraham Engelsman.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma), daughter of Samuel Zanwil Isaac Zekle Furth Fird and Leentje Lea Marcus Mordechai Levie

7) Sara Meyer Engels, birth 1792 Amsterdam
Married 1810 Amsterdam, dtb 659/516; parents groom: Aron Levie & Bele Godschalk; parents bride: Meyer Joseph & Judith Nathan. to:
Levie Aron Blits, birth 7 MRT 1789 Amsterdam, 'Circumcisions and Births in Amsterdam 1697-1811, by Jits v.Straten':
on 16 Adar 5549 - circumcision of Judaleib ben Aron ben Menachem, son of Aron Levie Blits and Bele Gijsbert Getschlik
Event: event 13 Sep 1812 Amsterdam death of child: G.A.A. Amsterdam - death registrations:
Samuel Levie Bles, 6 weeks old, son of Levie Aron Bles, 24 yrs.old & Saartje Meyer.
(info courtesy of Dini Hansma)

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